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There is a misunderstanding about e collars.
The significant challenge is the lack of training on how to us them.
Unleashed Prospective Dog trainers are certified in many approaches such as the specialised use of remote coaching collars.
Duke Ferguson’s canine “Nitro” was trained with the use of an e collar, foods and toys. Look at Nitro i…n this short video clip and then you be the judge if a e collar is all negative. If you even now feel so soon after seeing the video clip then make sure you respond to 1 question. Why is this canine So Content having the e-collar on?

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  1. You know what's inhumane? A dog running out into traffic…a dog being aggressive towards other animals and or people. Worse, a dog actually biting someone and having to be put down. I have a 2yr old doberman pinscher and I feel like we've exhausted almost all avenues of training. The odd thing is, like last night…we were walking the dog and she started to go after a cat, obviously yanking on the leash and jumping around. In the midst of jumping, she hit her head on my partners knee. Suddenly, she became calm, submissive and even very loving and attentive. It's wierd because I've noticed this more than once. She will be jumping in me like crazy and hit herself by running into me and same thing! She suddenly stopped being crazy and acted like I was in control and she wanted to please us. She only seems to respond to physical triggers or her ball…lol. She ran out of the house yesterday and was very defiant when I called, but I mentioned her ball and she came running back….so clearly, she can be trained. I've taught her to heel amoung other basic commands. It's just getting out of hand. I can't have her jumping on people, pulling the leash and chasing our cats and not coming when called. She listens about 50% of the time.. She's my best friend, but I feel like an ecollar may be the only thing that works.

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  2. Hannah Carrillo,  Sadly there are many applications of tools and lots of confusion in what is the best way. Even some of the trainers you mention do differ in their approach to training. The dogs reaction to a tool is due to the application of the tool in a system.   In my training I teach all behaviours with food and overlay the collars to what they have learned. because they associate the training collars with fun, food, freedom and affection they get a positive association and are not afraid. Your dog  reacted the way it did probably due to to much pressure and not enough Positive R and you mention Positive punishment..If you use the e collar this way you can get an un happy reaction…yes, true.  I think you stopped way to early to work your dog through its issues…..  I cant say for sure because I have no Idea how you trained…. but I can say I have taken dogs who had a negative past experience with electronics and with a little work conditioned them to be comfortable and happy with it. YOU NEED BALANCE + and –  motivation .   There are many , many reasons dogs can look the way they do and some times its not a collar issue. Confusion, and conflict in not getting what they want can also be a contributing factor..plus other things…..  you are right about the use of +R bring critical in a training program. E collars are not just used for +P.    there is nothing wrong with +P in training either… it is actually very hard to avoid.  Punishment is to decrease a behaviour SO … when you say the word  NO that the dog does not like with your voice to decrease a behaviour your giving a positive punisher and when you remove the reward at the same time your giving neg punishment.. … there is notting worn with this..   The so called all positive clan uses punishment because there is no such thing as ALL POSITIVE… not with any effective training anyway.    Balance out + and – R and + and – P with the right amount of motivation to the individual dog and you will have success no matter what tool you use. 

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  3. Ok  i agree that you have a beautifully trained dog.  but a what time did you actually use the collar on your dog.  You didnt show the reaction that the dog gives when it is shocked.  you just showed a well trained dog working with a bright orange collar on.

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  4. I have a problem with my gsd ,she works perfectly with NO distractions ,hand commands the lot , but as soon as there is a distraction it all goes out the window , so I got a e collar and use vibration only.As i need a perfect heel due to a bad back ,and the slightest tug can hurt me , have'nt used the shock setting though.Love how pople get their dogs to heel so well on some of these vid's .

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  5. oohh! sounds like me, I got sacked from 3 jobs, they said I was lazy, & at school I never got good marks……I must get one of those collars, DancesTords etc etc says they are just right for me!

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  6. Dogs ears flick backwards & forwards your dogs ears in the longest period are down for around 30 seconds. Your dogs posture is stiff after the collar comes out. He jumps up & licks your face this is an appeasement gesture. I know body language inside out you might like to look up appeasement.

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  7. OMG! your comment is ridiculus! The Dogs ears go back for a few seconds now and then when in my close personal space when released to play as well, its not the e collar! Ears back does not JUST mean, I'm not happy. LOOK At the whole body posture, the dog is excited and tail is going wild and he jumps in to the collar!Many dogs put ears back when snuggling up to owner for attention as well as other times.You should study a lot more on body language and be with 1,000s of dogs before posting crap

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  8. Cranks! Hahaha that's rich coming from you, Denis!

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  9. Ignorance is a strong term when you have no knowledge of me. I have complete understanding of how to use E – collars, how they work, which quadrants of learning you are using at which point in the training and the potential dangers to incorrect timing with the devices. I also am educated the honours level in engineering so have an above average understanding of electricity. I have spoke with the person who posted this video and he is a decent educated guy, we just choose to disagree on e collars

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  10. The report says “the study did find behavioural evidence that use of e-collars negatively impacted on the welfare of some dogs during training even when training was conducted by professional trainers using relatively benign training programmes advised by e-collar advocates.” (p4) They also found that the e-collar was not more effective than rewards-based training for recall and chasing, even though this is the scenario that e-collar advocates particularly recommend it for

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  11. hmm The first study concluded that “for a subset of dogs tested, the previous use of e-collars in training are associated with behavioural and physiological responses that are consistent with significant negative emotional states; this was not seen to the same extent in the control population. It is therefore suggested that the use of e-collars in training pet dogs can lead to a negative impact on welfare, at least in a proportion of animals trained using this technique.”

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  12. "A Defra spokesperson said: “Our research showed electronic dog collars cause no long-term harm to dog welfare when manufactured to a high standard and used appropriately in training. Anyone that uses an electronic dog collar to inflict unnecessary suffering may be prosecuted under animal welfare laws".
    to find it, Google: telegraph+ecma+defra

    Oh boy! The cranks we have to put up with here in UK!

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  13. To correct BenMcfuzzligs' cranks comment: DEFRA (a UK Gov dep't) did a study, their study found no problem with e-collars, in the UK Telegraph this morning the kennel club uk slagged off collars, but DEFRA a comment to the telegraph which says: (next post)

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  14. Why, when I read UK posts such as yours, benmcfuzzyligs, do I always feel so ashamed of being British, why do people like you insist on spreading their own ignorance aroud the net like an infectious disease & implying its an all Brit condition?

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  15. What about the latest DEFRA study in the UK comparing dogs trained by e collar trainers and positive trainers that showed that the e collar trained dogs were no more obedient but showed far more negative stress signs and stress hormones in the blood not just after the training but when returning to the area where the training had take place weeks after. E collars are causing more stress on the dogs for no better results than positive training – why choose that?

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  16. Read the research on Harlow's monkeys and find out how abuse can still lead to attachment.

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  17. It's not about pain, it's about interrupting the dog's thought process or action as he runs away. You stop with the lowest level of stimulation that the dog will respond to, and for some dogs that is just the buzzer noise, not even any shock at all.

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  18. Hello congratulations for the work. I'm from Brazil, I would like to buy DVD.learn the magic of electronic training colar.dogs happily work!!!!!!!

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  19. Cathy- You don't know how much I appreciate your enlightening me on this. If I want to be credible in what I write or say, let it be founded on sound knowledge and facts. You've helped me there. Moreover, I do not want to be one to perpetuate harmful ideas, which are easy to do (esp. for those weaker intellects, such as mine). Since I might still be involved with tracking devices, I hope it would be okay if I can count on more tips and advice from you in the near future. 🙂

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  20. Actually a soft dog responds better to the e-collar because it's so impersonal. They don't have to feel pressured by the owner. My own boy is a soft dog and we are doing great with the e-collar. The inborn drive to run is so strong with a Greyhound I'm not sure if an e-collar will work though.

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  21. Citronella is cruel from the dogs perspective. He has to keep smelling it long after he's stopped barking. The electric collars are the clearest and therefore kindest to the dog. I have that PetSafe collar. My boy is a soft dog and if it stressed him out I'd know it. I come home to a happy boy and no complaining neighbors. As an added benefit, by stopping the physical manifestation of anxiety(barking) the dog often becomes calmer. Move the body to move the mind.

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  22. People like you are the reason why I hate america.

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  23. For the first time ever I use an ecollar. It saved my life and probably my dogs life. He was out of control and had NO focus. He is now a phenomenal dog. Ecollars are awesome WHEN USED PROPERLY. I found an amazing trainer and wouldn't trade the experience for anything.

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  24. You never show how the dog actually learned these commands. and I agree with the question posed about why you would need the collar once the dog already follows your commands. And where is the positive reinforcement, such as praise or affection, even if you don't use treats?

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  25. I think your replying to the wrong video? If not your dead wrong here. Why would one continue to train a dog that is fully obedience trained in increments. His recall and drop on recall and sit on recall as well as send aways is reliable and tested at Four hundred yards …400 not 4 feet like in this room. as far as pushing him way to far..you obviously have never worked a high drive malinois..they are super fast, this dog is working his ass off to get the toy in the background.

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  26. Those that have no knowledge of electronics have the option of using Citronella, instead of finger-pointing. If my cat had been controlled by something similar, like a cat fence, he wouldn't have been squished by a truck while I was away. (He's one of the cats I rescued. If I had actually been there when it happened the trauma would have been too much to bear.)

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  27. I was criticized for including the PETSAFE PREMIUM DELUXE BARK COLLAR in my blog, and that people should try it on for themselves before they buy it. You've re-affirmed my conviction that the tool is as good as the owner. Your dog is no fool, and he is with someone he trusts- he's happy, and motivated. A human's neck and a dog's neck are not the same.

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  28. Have tried everything with my dog,she pulls so hard on the lead,rears up like a horse when she sees another dog,has knocked me over twice,tried positive training and nothing has worked..tried an e collar and only used the shock on low once,i only use the vibrate function now and that is very very rare…she now walks to heel and wags her tail when i get the collar out… a different dog…if you want to know what the shock is like take your shoes and socks off and try it yourself.

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  29. Your comment explains the wrong way, un fair way, to use an e collar. And as you can clearly see in the video this is NOT the case with my dog. He is happy and obedient and LOVES the site of the e collar. no yelling, no fear.
    Here is another scenario for you: You are in a room full of people and you can not speak the language. A man comes up to you from behind and wants your attention but you dont see him. He taps you on the shoulder gently, you turn and look at him , he gives you $50.

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  30. @Theresa Coss for now until they have earned their runs have them on a log line or fenced in area. Once you teach them to come when called they can have more off leash runs. Safety first. I do Skype consulting, phone consulting if you need help ASAP. I also have step by step training videos coming out very soon. Hope this helps

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  31. They were up and down the road, chasing dogs and just running wild!! I near had a heart attack! I have decided, that is that. No more off lead runs. I have to get some control, because I could never live with myself if one of my babies were killed by a car. Thanks again, and I will be in touch.

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  32. Thank You so much for your reply.. You have given me some great information. I will like to take you up on the offer of emailing you. I live in Ireland so finding a responsible trainer using this method will be difficult. I really do need help.. today I had 3 sighthounds running wild. I was allowing my two whippets to run, when my greyhound pulled out her collar and took chase. It was nerve wrecking. It took me over 20 minutes getting them in. Thank God there were no cars!

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  33. First you must teach the dog what stimulation means, that when it feels the stimulation it means you want the dogs attention and by paying attention to you is very rewarding to the dog. effective for all dogs of all sensitivities and temperaments stubborn or deaf. I would not suggest trying things on your own though. you can email me info@upk9.ca for more info. I hope this is of some help.

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  34. No matter if the dog is shy, nervous, submissive, Hard temperament or soft used properly in a training program will motivate and provide the best results possible. The reason is that you can use it in a non fear based, non intimidation based approach. Motivating attention in a way similar as if I saw you in a crowd of people and I wanted your attention so I came up to you and tapped you on the shoulder and once you looked at me it was good for you.

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  35. Sorry for the dealy Theresa. e collars are both good and not so good. Its all on the user and tool used. One problem is to many people buy them on their own with no education on how to use them and most often use them inappropriately. The other problem is that not all e collars are adjustable enough. Most store bought collars are crap. In saying that with the right collar and training combination, results on attention, recall, walking on or off leash are awesome.

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  36. She has been a puller, especially when we got her, and she also is very prey-focused so if we see a squirrel she will dive to chase it. Training is a daily job, and obviously, we will work on recall all of her life. I don't see how you could object to the collar, it really is little more than what we do when we walk, which is have a tight strap collar on, if she pulls, she feels pressure on her neck, and she stops. Do you think that is cruel too?

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  37. Obviously the leash would be for training and for walks in dangerous places… of course you don't leave the dog in a yard with it all by himself… Also I don't think i understand the last statement… did it take you 5 years to teach her to heel? I'm getting very confused…

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  38. I think that people who dismiss this tool just have not been in the same situation, with a dog that takes off and runs toward traffic and that will NOT come back, even if you were holding a raw steak! If I could materialize another dog or better yet, a cat, she would come back out of curiosity/jealousy but I don't have access to some other dog or cat. I've thought of putting fox urine on a stuffed animal to bait her back, but that's pretty nasty to keep stored and it would only work once.

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  39. I assure you I am not ignorant, but frustrated I am indeed… why? because people give access to these tools to those drastic and uneducated people out there, who then get on youtube to watch dangerous videos about the tools being the most splendid thing in the world. So they go and buy them…. Now that is a recipe for trouble… As long as anybody can buy an e-collar, I'll be against it… You can argue with me as much as you like…

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  40. I don't know about that idea. She'd have to wear it ALL the time just in case she got out of the house or yard, and if I wasn't here, she could possibly get it tangled up and cause herself harm. Don't worry, I'm not going to do this without input from an experienced trainer. We love our dog and only want to help her live a long and happy life. It's funny, if you saw her on leash, you'd never imagine that she has no recall, she is such a good walker, but that has taken 5 years of work.

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  41. Again, It is all about the user. Drastic is the user not the tool. I will agree there a lot of uneducated users out there as well as unpleasant frustrated people that go out and use the tool inappropriately. Sad indeed! Another sad problem is there are just as many ignorant and frustrated people who get on youtube and watch videos that they are against, then judge , bash and make mean and abusive comments about someone they don't know or how they use the tool. shameful it is.

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  42. How about a long leash? She can drag it around and you have something to control her from a distance… I'm sorry, but the only result of an e-collar I have ever seen is a very nervous and fearfull dog… I'm sure there's something you haven't tried that's not as drastic…

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  43. Thanks for your reply and keep well 🙂

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  44. Now since my little foster arrived, I have pack mentality going on. Naughty.. No recall, no direction.. No control. I am about to start positive training with my Greyhound, and then follow on with my whippet. Its a work in progress and in the meantime, I don't allow them off lead. Its way to risky. No car awareness and when they see even a bird, or a plastic bag, they chase. My Bella was rescued from the track, but she never raced. Apparently she didn't focus, was to puppy like.

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  45. Hi Dovie, Thanks for your comment. No.. I did not receive a reply, and I have come a long way with my girl in 11 months. I decided not to get a e collar, like yourself, i don't think it would have worked. I got to a point where she would come when called but only after she was completely run out. Tired. I have since then rescued another Whippet girl and Im fostering a Whippet x boy. Now! LOL. I have no recall with all of them. When it was just my Girl and the little Whippet, I could manage

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  46. I guess no one ever responded to you – I hope you have trained your dog by now. I do not think she would be a good candidate for an e-collar because of her reaction to even a stern voice. I think you could get good results with lots of training on a long line, and treats and praise for her. Was she rescued from a racetrack? That cat problem could be a result of her prey drive, or sheer playfulness. I wouldn't necessarily use an e-collar for that either. I do hope you've found a trainer.

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  47. Well, we've tried everything we can with her. If I could run like a Kenyan, I could get ahead of her and try to get HER to chase ME instead, but the chance of me ever running fast are -.00000000001. I am working and working with her but I have no faith that she will ever obey off-leash unless I have some way to bring her back to me, and the e-collar, used correctly, is just another tool to use to help train your dog. I need her to come back so she doesn't get killed by a car.

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  48. I still don't see how that justifies an e-collar…

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  49. We rescued her from a kill shelter, she was 3 years old and we think her previous owners may have chased her as a game. She's a breed that is usually unable to be fully off-leash because they are so prey-driven, but I really need to get some kind of recall on her so she doesn't keep running away if she gets out of the house or yard. You shouldn't be so nasty before you know the whole story. She's got it really good here.

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  50. Ok, congratulations on failing as a dog trainer… getting a dog and then whining about not being able to handle him is your problem… and the dog pays the price… that's a classic….

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